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Template:MotD Rob tells me the CSS on this page looks horrible. I'm going to try simplifying it. There's no way div heights could be a good idea here. -- David Welbourn 04:48, 15 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)


The change is a definite improvement from where I'm standing. - Maga 05:38, 15 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

And I figured out that the <center> tag is turned into <div> tags and messes with CSS stuff. I removed them. --David Cornelson 12:10, 15 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Is there a place yet on this site to discuss what features we would like to see in the future? For instance, I think it would be nice to have a page that lists all of the users of ifWiki. -- --Gtwade 13:19, 15 Feb 2005 (Central Standard Time)

To Gtwade: That feature's already here: Special:Listusers. I found it by clicking on the Special Pages link over in the "toolbox". -- David Welbourn 21:25, 15 Feb 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Greetings everyone. I have some time to offer, and am a IF supporter and archiver. Instead of using <center> tags, try using "align=center" within tags, eg. use <h3 align=center>My Title Here</h3> instead of "<center><h3>xyz</h3></center>" I would suggest two points- make the Community Portal into an active discussion forum. One good forum package is at http://www.invisionboard.com/. Second point- add a short IF community links page, giving credit to well-run websites that link to here, eg. Baf's Guide at http://www.wurb.com/if/ currently links to ifwiki.org. Thanks. regards ;) --Eric.xyzzy 09:29, 6 Mar 2005 (Central Standard Time)

greetings

Nice site! Perhaps you should consider hosting some WikiIF as well. Uncyclopedia has rather stolen the march on this with their Zork Game. What do you say the real IF community does something to catch up? --Nerd42 20:01, 1 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)

  • Personally, that's not the sort of thing I'd want on the IFWiki, but that's just me. Incidently, this idea has come up before; see Wiki Based Interactive Fiction System (Talk). Although now that I look at it again, that's not really the same thing as you're suggesting. -- David Welbourn 04:21, 2 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time) (edited)
  • Well ... all wikiIF pages could have their own namespace so it could be kept seperate from the actual encyclopedia articles ... oh never mind. It's your site, do what you like with it. ;) --Nerd42 16:08, 2 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)
by the way, I heard somebody over at wikicities has already suggested having a wikicity entirely devoted to writing WikiIF ... but I don't know if it's actually going to happen. That'd be neat though --Nerd42 11:36, 7 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Well, yeah, but 3Wishes wasn't really intended as, like, a publishable work of IF - I mean, it was like a demo/example of how to write stories - like a template for people to copy. And then someone did but if you're going to count those, there is also a large Homestar Runner Wiki IF writing group that has new games coming out all the time. --Nerd42 15:07, 13 October 2006 (EST)

Porter's Section

Could we have a page for those of us trying to convert old adventures and old adventure systems (e.g. Scott Adams, Magnetic Scrolls ad nauseam - akin to a wiki form of if-legends). As I have a few scribbles of code and notes that may benefit others, but don't fit within any of the if-legends sub-pages. --David Lodge 20:12, 16 Nov 2005 (Greenwich Meantime)

  • Sure, I don't see any obvious problems with that on the wiki. Go ahead and create them. If there are license issues, make sure you change the license of the relevant pages from the default public domain declaration to something more appropriate. We already have Category:Scott Adams and Category:Magnetic Scrolls to put pages in. We could also create a Porting category, if that would be useful; we already have a similar category called Category:Rakontointeraktiva for Non-English porting efforts. I don't know how to advise you properly on how to name your pages without more details, though. I'm guessing you'll want pages like "Examples of Magnetic Scrolls code", "Magnetic Scrolls to Inform", "Porting advice", and so on. -- David Welbourn 18:03, 16 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)
    • Okay, What I'll do is add the pages under the publisher section, and then link notes to the Category, I've started with the Robico Software Section. --David Lodge 19:37, 19 Nov 2005 (Greenwich Meantime)

Wikibugs

The login/account creation system seems kinda buggy. I forgot my password so I hit the "Mail me a new password" button, which results in an error message (Error sending mail: mail() [<a href='function.mail'>function.mail</a>]: "sendmail_from" not set in php.ini or custom "From:" header missing)

Then I tried crreating a new account, but since I was using the same mail address as with my original account, another half page of page occurred (A database error has occurred Query: INSERT INTO `ifwiki_objectcache` (keyname,value,exptime) VALUES('wikidb:messages:Sitenotice','+¶2°RR²?\0','2005-11-30 16:16:54') Function: MediaWikiBagOStuff:_doquery" and so on)

Anyone willing to fix this? PDD3 10:17, 30 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I have several tasks on my list and plan to get to this at some point. I don't see anything happening before 2006 though. --David Cornelson 11:21, 30 Nov 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Current events notice?

I think I have a good idea. I have an ulterior motive for giving it, but I think it's a good idea just the same.

Below the "Land of FAQ" area, there was recently a box giving a notice about the XYZZY Awards winners. I was just thinking, wouldn't it be cool if that box were there year-round, with its contents changing based on current events of the IF community?

My ulterior motive is that I'd like people to be aware of my Spring Thing competition, which is going on right now. But there are also other things to announce... IntroComp is coming up, LoTech Comp is coming up, just to give a couple of comp examples.

My thought is that that box need not contain big text. If the text were smaller, it could more easily contain announcements about more than one current event, whenever appropriate.

Anyway, take this idea and do what you want with it. I'd be interested to hear people's reactions. -- Greg Boettcher

  • I have thought a teensy bit about this kind of idea before, and of course, the info you want is already at Current events#Competitions & Contest News. It's just a matter of a) how do I summarize that really succinctly, and where on the Main Page would it squeeze in? My current thinking is to squeeze the bottom section over to the left and put a comp news summary to its right and under the Feature Article section. The summarization question is more difficult to answer. -- David Welbourn 16:19, 3 April 2006 (EST)
  • Okay, I've tried to add a new section to the Main Page. It's not very pretty, but it's a start. -- David Welbourn 17:24, 3 April 2006 (EST)
  • I think it looks really good. I didn't have in mind just comp news, but maybe that is most of what news there is, after all. You solved both of the two issues you mentioned really well. Yay! -- Greg Boettcher 19:45, 3 April 2006 (Central Daylight Time)

Requests

Could someone with permissions add CreatureComp to the list of upcoming competitions? The deadline is September 22nd. Thanks ! - David Fisher

  • Sure. I should perhaps mention that that section is currently done by editing Template:Comp news; you don't need to directly edit the Main Page for that. -- David Welbourn 04:17, 22 August 2006 (EST)

TADS 3 announcement?

Considering the way in which Inform 7 was trumpeted on this page in a big bold box last spring, I think it'd be nice to do something similar for TADS 3, now that its general release has finally come out. -- Greg Boettcher 16 September 2006

  • This message is way too late, but I just wanted to say that I did notice the fact that you responded to my request, and I wanted to say thanks to all concerned. -- Greg Boettcher 16 November 2006

wikipedia

i've been creating individual pages on en.wikipedia.org for all the XYZZY "Best Game" winners [1] and all the IFComp winners [2] down the years. they pass wikipedia notability requirements by virtue of winning the 2 biggest prizes in IF. but they're just stubs so wondering if they could be expanded somehow?

also, a lot of those game articles dont have corresponding game articles here, so would it be possible to just copy and paste those to ifwiki? Nespresso 18:00, 15 December 2006 (EST)

I can't really advise you very well about expanding Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia is a bit out of my league and I have no experience editing articles there. I would first study other (non-IF) game articles on Wikipedia for ideas on what sort of info they like and try to do the comparable stuff for the IF articles. Since Wikipedia likes citations and doesn't like "weasel words", you'll probably want to back up any assertions with links to reviews or r*if threards about the games, I think. If you're merely asking for manpower to edit those articles, well, personally, I'll have to decline. I've got enough on my plate with this wiki right here.
As for copying info from Wikipedia to IFWiki, there's two issues that have to be addressed: the layout differences and the copyright issue. I'm not going to be too dictorial on stub files that are incorrectly formatted. After all, they're stubs; they're meant to be edited later anyway. (If it's not a stub you're copying, we'll probably need to slap a Needs work template on the page to remind us to fix it.) The copyright issue is more stomach-churning, since IFWiki is public domain and Wikipedia is not. Which means that either the copyright has to be brought over with it OR you can't do a simple cut-n-paste and you'll have to reword it over here. Unless I'm misunderstanding the whole thing, which is entirely possible. -- David Welbourn 08:41, 16 December 2006 (EST)

Editing the main page

I recently found out that the main page is (maybe?) made from several templates. Is everyone welcome to edit those templates? As they seem rather valuable I assume not. Thanks in advance. ---- Cassandra Palop 08:04, 13 February 2007 (EST)

Yes, the main page is made from the Main Page templates.
I don't really know if people are welcome to edit those templates (I'm not an IFWiki administrator). But I did edit one or two of them and nobody complained. In particular, I think it can't hurt if we make the Competition News template as up-to-date as we can. But the others should probably be left alone... although, once, I couldn't resist adding a shameless self-advertisement to the Feature article, but at least it was definitely on-topic.
I suppose you can edit them if you're quite sure of your changes -- if you want to correct typos or out-of-date info, for instance. Otherwise, it's probably better to use the Template Talk pages. --Eriorg 14:29, 13 February 2007 (EST)
Yes, people are allowed to edit the templates, especially if they are adding content, improving them, fixing typos, and so on, just like any other page. (Spammers, however, are not welcome to edit them.) If you want to make drastic changes to a template, it would be a courtesy to discuss the proposed change on the template's talk page first, though. And if you want to change icons or graphics in a template, I'd like to be asked first, please. But in most normal cases, you can just go and edit it without asking. -- David Welbourn 19:02, 13 February 2007 (EST)
Thanks, I learn by induction. :) -- Cassandra Palop 04:29, 15 February 2007 (EST)

Er, I just added "Innovation Comp" to Template:Comp news - it works fine if you view the template page directly, but on the main page it appears as a non-existent link (and puts you in Edit mode if you click on it). The "Innovation Comp" does actually exist, though ...

It's a normal link now. I'm unclear on exactly how the wiki software works, but I've always noticed that there's some delay in changes in one part of the wiki getting recognized by other pages in the wiki that refer to the changed page. I've seen red links for newly created pages, categories that still list pages that were just deleted, and pages still using an older version of a template that was just changed. As far as I know, time fixes these "errors". It's just not as instant as we would like. -- David Welbourn 19:48, 7 March 2007 (EST)

Adding References Support

Please consider adding references support to this installation. The instructions for adding it are here. It is a simple addition but makes citations many times easier. --Jason Scott 13:01, 4 October 2007 (PDT)