IFWiki:Copyright discussions (2005)

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Revision as of 15:21, 28 January 2005 by Morbus Iff (talk | contribs) (Adding context of my CC agreeance.)

Overview

We are in the midst of a licensing discussion for ifwiki. There are two proposals so far, some reference material, and some heated discussion. For background, here is a summary of events:

  1. David Cornelson purchased the domain ifwiki.org, installed MediaWiki software, and setup ifwiki on a server in his basement. The database for ifwiki can be mirrored by anyone wishing to do so. See MediaWiki for notes on hardware/software requirements.
  2. David Cornelson asked Dennis Jerz for permission to load the IF Theory Glossary into ifwiki. Dennis leapt at the opportunity to revitalize the community-built glossary. David Welbourn began to help out and in fact completed the task almost entirely on his own.
  3. David Cornelson also received permission from Gunther Schmidl to move the Speed-IF index from fourcoffees.com to ifwiki. He started this process and then David Welbourn completed it.
  4. David Welbourn began to add indexes for certain IF people and game lists.
  5. Nick Montfort added an FAQ for IF and invited others to share in the writing.
  6. David Cornelson added IF related indexes and asked others to share in the writing.
  7. Nick Montfort began talking about copyright and licensing issues. He proposed the Creative Commons license.
  8. David Welbourn had a negative reaction to the licensing proposal and eventually dissented.
  9. Others weighed in with their opinions.
  10. Nick Montfort garnered approval from all FAQ writers to implement the Creative Commons license for the FAQ separate from ifwiki licensing.
  11. David Cornelson proposed a Public Domain license with the ability to create copyrighted articles.
  12. Nick and Dave discuss Dave's proposal on ifMUD

Proposals

Discussion

  1. Founding Agreement comments by David Welbourn on 1-19-2005 at 22:13 CST
  2. Founding Agreement comments by Nick Montfort on 1-20-2005 at 1:26 CST
  3. Founding Agreement comments by Jon Rosebaugh on 1-20-2005 at 1:51 CST
  4. Founding Agreement comments by Sean Barrett on 1-20-2005 at 6:33 CST
  5. Founding Agreement comments by Nick Montfort on 1-20-2005 at 15:04 CST
  6. Founding Agreement comments by David Cornelson on 1-20-2005 at 15:50 CST
  7. Founding Agreement Comments by Sean Barrett on 1-20-2005 at 21:46 CST
  8. Founding Agreement Comments on ifMUD on 1-20-2005 at 23:50 CST
  9. Founding Agreement Comments on ifMUD on 1-22-2005 at 1:13 CST
  10. Founding Agreement comments by J. Robinson Wheeler on 1-24-2005 at 2:01 CST

References

What the Portland Pattern Repository has done in this area...

The Portland Pattern Repository was the first ever wiki. They've had their own discussions about copyright and licensing. I hope this doesn't add to confusion, but I thought that looking at similar discussions that have happened before might help somewhat. Or cloud the water. I hate not having MUD access at home... --Jon 12:32, 20 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Issues

  1. Are the original IF Theory Glossary items copyrighted?
    1. If yes, then how do we attribute and license them?
    2. If no, what license will they have?
  2. What kinds of content will we have that might have conflicting or varied licenses?
    1. Glossary Items
    2. Shared Articles without a main author
    3. Articles with a byline and editors
    4. References to external databases such as Baf's
  3. How are anonymous authors or editors attributed?

Creative Commons Agreements

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. --Nm 18:32, 15 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions of the FAQ Article under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. All other contributions are in reserve until further notice. --David Cornelson 14:18, 23 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license, and monkeys are hereby declared funny, and ever henceforth shall it be. -- Maga 09:35, 16 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. --inky 15:58, 17 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. Such as they are. I'm pretty damn lazy. --Jon 16:32, 19 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree with CC licenses, and I assert that Dave's fears are caused by gross misintepretation (but, seriously, who the hell am I?). I use CC at my own "interactive" fiction wiki. --Morbus Iff 08:44, 28 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

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