IFWiki:Copyright discussions (2005)

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Overview

We are in the midst of a licensing discussion for ifwiki. There are two proposals so far, some reference material, and some heated discussion. For background, here is a summary of events:

  1. David Cornelson purchased the domain ifwiki.org, installed MediaWiki software, and setup ifwiki on a server in his basement. The database for ifwiki can be mirrored by anyone wishing to do so. See MediaWiki for notes on hardware/software requirements.
  2. David Cornelson asked Dennis Jerz for permission to load the IF Theory Glossary into ifwiki. Dennis leapt at the opportunity to revitalize the community-built glossary. David Welbourn began to help out and in fact completed the task almost entirely on his own.
  3. David Cornelson also received permission from Gunther Schmidl to move the Speed-IF index from fourcoffees.com to ifwiki. He started this process and then David Welbourn completed it.
  4. David Welbourn began to add indexes for certain IF people and game lists.
  5. Nick Montfort added an FAQ for IF and invited others to share in the writing.
  6. David Cornelson added IF related indexes and asked others to share in the writing.
  7. Nick Montfort began talking about copyright and licensing issues. He proposed the Creative Commons license.
  8. David Welbourn had a negative reaction to the licensing proposal and eventually dissented.
  9. Others weighed in with their opinions.
  10. Nick Montfort garnered approval from all FAQ writers to implement the Creative Commons license for the FAQ separate from ifwiki licensing.
  11. David Cornelson proposed a Public Domain license with the ability to create copyrighted articles.
  12. Nick and Dave discuss Dave's proposal on ifMUD

Proposals

Discussion

  1. Founding Agreement comments by David Welbourn on 1-19-2005 at 22:13 CST
  2. Founding Agreement comments by Nick Montfort on 1-20-2005 at 1:26 CST
  3. Founding Agreement comments by Jon Rosebaugh on 1-20-2005 at 1:51 CST
  4. Founding Agreement comments by Sean Barrett on 1-20-2005 at 6:33 CST
  5. Founding Agreement comments by Nick Montfort on 1-20-2005 at 15:04 CST
  6. Founding Agreement comments by David Cornelson on 1-20-2005 at 15:50 CST
  7. Founding Agreement Comments by Sean Barrett on 1-20-2005 at 21:46 CST
  8. Founding Agreement Comments on ifMUD on 1-20-2005 at 23:50 CST
  9. Founding Agreement Comments on ifMUD on 1-22-2005 at 1:13 CST
  10. Founding Agreement comments by J. Robinson Wheeler on 1-24-2005 at 2:01 CST

References

What the Portland Pattern Repository has done in this area...

The Portland Pattern Repository was the first ever wiki. They've had their own discussions about copyright and licensing. I hope this doesn't add to confusion, but I thought that looking at similar discussions that have happened before might help somewhat. Or cloud the water. I hate not having MUD access at home... --Jon 12:32, 20 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Issues

  1. Are the original IF Theory Glossary items copyrighted?
    1. If yes, then how do we attribute and license them?
    2. If no, what license will they have?
  2. What kinds of content will we have that might have conflicting or varied licenses?
    1. Glossary Items
    2. Shared Articles without a main author
    3. Articles with a byline and editors
    4. References to external databases such as Baf's
  3. How are anonymous authors or editors attributed?

Creative Commons Agreements

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. --Nm 18:32, 15 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions of the FAQ Article under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. All other contributions are in reserve until further notice. --David Cornelson 14:18, 23 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license, and monkeys are hereby declared funny, and ever henceforth shall it be. -- Maga 09:35, 16 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. --inky 15:58, 17 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree to let ifwiki license my existing contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. Such as they are. I'm pretty damn lazy. --Jon 16:32, 19 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I agree with CC licenses, and feel that the fears stated are due to misinterpretation (but, seriously, who am I?). I use CC at my own "interactive" fiction wiki. --Morbus Iff 08:44, 28 Jan 2005 (Central Standard Time)

If it's still relevant, I do agree to CC-BY relicensing. (We probably need a new wiki at this point though.) Oreolek (talk) 06:54, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Testing License Tab

Logged Out:

  • Anyone should be able to view a license that exists for an article.
  • If no license exists for an article, the tab is not shown.
  • If the user tries to cheat and enter License:articlename, they will be given the uneditable version of a blank article.

Logged In and original author of an article:

  • Will see license tab at all times and can edit license anytime.

Logged In and not original author of an article:

  • If a license exists, the tab is shown.
  • If the user jumps to the license page, they will not be able to edit it.
  • If no license exists for an article, the tab is not shown.
  • If the user tries to cheat and enter License:articlename, they will be given the uneditable version of a blank article.

For Articles:

  • The associated license should be shown (not editable) at the bottom of an article. If no such license has been created, the phrase "This article is public domain." is printed. (up for discussion).
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